Is it right to ask God to harm others, your enemies, those who do evil against the innocent. Why or why not. Have you seen or heard of people asking God to harm others who have wronged. Is there Biblical examples of this.
posted by preacherman @ 8:35:00 AM
I was born and raised in Abilene, Tx. Graduated from Abilene High. Woodlawn Church of Christ is my home congregation, where my dad serves as an elder. I am a graduate of Lubbock Christian University. I have a wonderful loving wife and boys who are the greatest blessing and joy in my life. My favorite scripture is: 1 Timothy 4:12 "Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young but set an example to the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity." GBS
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Whether or not it's right to ask I wonder what kind of God would answer such a prayer? Not the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Kinney, I know that the cry for justice against enemies is heard frequently in the Old Testament -- particularly in the Psalms -- but I think we have to be guided by the Spirit of Christ, who asked us to love and pray for our enemies and prayed (while on the cross!) for His Father to forgive them.
It is a high calling; a call to perfection in heart and love.
When I saw this question, I couldn't help but think of Mark Twain's short story, "The War Prayer." (linked to my name above)
Huffington Post and other news sources are reporting that a U.S. judge ruled yesterday it is not illegal for people to pray for God to cause harm to others. Sparking all kinds of questions I am sure in non-believers minds on that kind of ruling and getting to your point Keith who would pray such a prayer and maybe even addressing and questioning would God respond to those prayers. Has he before, and would he do it again. Romans says, "Vengance is mine, I will repay."
No! We are taught to love and pray for our enemies, so I'll take that to excluding praying for their harm as well as praying for God to "bless and guide 'our' missiles" (referring to American military) as I once heard a Christian pray.
Grace and Peace,
K. Rex Butts
As Keith mentioned, David (the one who was called "a man after God's own heart") frequently called out for God to punish his persecutors in Psalms. How does that "jive" with Romans 12:19 (actually a quote of Deuteronomy 32:35)? David is placing the matter before God, allowing Him to act on it. Did God act on those prayers? He certainly did against the Philistines. The same God as the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Our God is a God of justice and mercy, equally. He cannot be more one than the other. He cannot be just one and exclude the other, either. He cannot be merciful without also being just.
Can we call out for justice in a self-serving way? No. Should we call for our God to exercise justice so that non-believers might come to believe and to give God glory? I think, yes.
Yes, King David did. God listened and responded. I think it is natural for people to feel anger, frustration, want justice. I think it is okay to share with Jesus how your feeling.
Good comments above. God did indeed reserve vengance for Himself. I don't think we can love our enemies while praying for their destruction, but rather pray for their repentance. I pray daily that God will work to bring about belief, understanding and repentance from many of our leaders, up to the highest office in the land. I then pray that if that is not possible, that these people be removed from office and power so that His will may be done by someone else in their place.
It is really hard to "honor the king" (whatever position and/or office you want to attach to that) when you think "the king" may well be the antichrist. But God still tells us to honor the king!
If you view these reprobate leaders, these unbelievers, these people who continue to make decisions that take this country further and further into sin as enemies, then you understand the point I'm making. Still I pray for their repentance, not their physical destruction. If they won't repent, then perhaps God can cause them to lose their position(s) of leadership.
God is just. He will repay. He may do some of it now, and assuredly, he will do it when we all stand before him in judgment.
Is it safe to say we can ask God to intervene, and allow Him to decide how he does that??
My 2 cents for the day!
I think a can pray against the efforts of those who are causing harm. David does in psalms 35. It isn't to be used lightly or for selfish gain.
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